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 Post Posted: 9 Oct 2010 8:30 am    Post subject:
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Stats are up on the match and log posted. I had to revise them as I looked closer and realized I made some mistakes. I added OTC_Wyrmsfire to Demolition Squad.

Some notes about last nights match and changes:

-Adding a bonus to playing your "main" Occupation

-No -level possible in League Matches

-Increasing % chance for many messages to 50% to make other Occupations viable

-Duelist will get a buff. If a player doesn't accept a duel from a Duelist then they have a chance to lose rank points scaled according to how much higher they are in the rankings than the Duelist. Those below the Duelist will suffer a much lesser penalty. Regular -duel for non-Duelists will remain the same with no penalty.

-Strategists will be able to type -strategist to also receive Marked Points if a Marked Player's teammate kills him/her or if the Marked Player commits suicide

-heal wasn't intended on "healing" Marked, however, I like it so much I'm changing Speaker to be able to do that.

-Speakers should type -buff message only immediately after seeing a teammate get the kill/streakkill/BA tonnage ranking messages

-So that there is more incentive to pilot Speakers in opens and not just League Play, Speakers can earn 1000 point bonus for staying alive A WHOLE GAME, 3 times per day, receive 1 full level rank when this is accomplished, valid in League matches as well.
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 Post Posted: 9 Oct 2010 1:04 pm    Post subject:
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Everything looks good and I think that pretty much covers the discussion we had last night on comms... Only thing I"m curious about is the Speaker's Levels... Maybe the Speaker's -buff should be changed to something like this:

" -buff gives a teammate (1 + Speakers Level)x Rank Points for Kill/StreakKill/BA messages. "

e.g. If a level 1 speaker uses -buff, the teammate will receive (1 + 1) = 2x rank points. If a level 8 speaker uses -buff, the teammate will receive (1+Cool = 9x rank points.

Another idea for the Speaker's levels (and this actually applies to a lot of classes) would be to increase the number of times per day that a specific ability can be used.

e.g. At level 1 a speaker can only heal 3x per day. Maybe for every three levels they can heal and extra time per day. Buff could also be modified a little to something like 5xLevel/Day. The way the rules are now, with unlimited -buffs, an enterprising Speaker could easily get 10 or 20 LEVELS (yes, levels not sub-levels) in a single day.

When I say that this can be carried over to other classes, the same game mechanic can be applied to say the BA Specialist - For every 3 levels, -baspecial can be used an additional time per day. And/or for every 5 levels, the BA weight multiplier goes up by 1. For instance, if I made it to level 20 BA (based on the above numbers) I could use -baspecial 9 times per day (3 + 18/3) and would get a weight multiplier of x7 (3 + 20/5).

This could be a way to give additional benefits to higher level players without adding too many more rules to the mix.
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 Post Posted: 9 Oct 2010 2:32 pm    Post subject:
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the way I do the levels now, a 1 time day bonus is because its easy. It would get too complicated multiplying every buff by a level. Same with using a particular ability per day...i keep it between 3-5 because it is easier. Happens too much and I'm spending all day looking thru the logs...

Unfortunately, that is the limitation I bump up against all the time...
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 Post Posted: 9 Oct 2010 8:19 pm    Post subject:
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Changes have been made from discussed above in list.

Please check the League Rules and Occupations for the changes. Also see the new "Main Occupation Leveling" paragraph on all of the Occupation pages.
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 Post Posted: 9 Oct 2010 10:01 pm    Post subject:
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made additional changes to Duelist...

I will try and keep everyone up-to-date on changes in this thread but it would be best if everyone checked out the website before every match.
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 Post Posted: 10 Oct 2010 4:10 pm    Post subject:
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Stats are up on the match and log posted. I had to revise them as I looked closer and realized I made some mistakes. I added OTC_Wyrmsfire to Demolition Squad.

Some notes about last nights match and changes:

-Adding a bonus to playing your "main" Occupation

-No -level possible in League Matches

-Increasing % chance for many messages to 50% to make other Occupations viable

-Duelist will get a buff. If a player doesn't accept a duel from a Duelist then they have a chance to lose rank points scaled according to how much higher they are in the rankings than the Duelist. Those below the Duelist will suffer a much lesser penalty. Regular -duel for non-Duelists will remain the same with no penalty.

-Strategists will be able to type -strategist to also receive Marked Points if a Marked Player's teammate kills him/her or if the Marked Player commits suicide

-heal wasn't intended on "healing" Marked, however, I like it so much I'm changing Speaker to be able to do that.

-Speakers should type -buff message only immediately after seeing a teammate get the kill/streakkill/BA tonnage ranking messages

-So that there is more incentive to pilot Speakers in opens and not just League Play, Speakers can earn 1000 point bonus for staying alive A WHOLE GAME, 3 times per day, receive 1 full level rank when this is accomplished, valid in League matches as well.


I wasn't sure about the -level rule during League play. Thanks for the heads up.

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 Post Posted: 11 Oct 2010 8:51 am    Post subject:
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Hi Templar...good job in betting. But, please type -level more quickly after using -vendetta or -chaotic, thx.

Nice work in rankings Metatron, but please only type -level when you get the BA Bonus or use -baspecialist...
And, only use -baspecialist when you get the BA Bonus message. I docked you 1 +10 Ranking Message because I've warned you before. If it keeps happening I'll have to take away more...

good job working the Cha Wyrm, but either use -chaotic or -vendetta...cant use both on same destroy.
(updated tooltip on Chaotic portrait to reflect this rule...) oh, and only 5/day
And, not sure what -heal u were trying to heal (1x), or -buff (2x) you were trying to buff

Please, for every1, don't play -lotto unless you get the message. And, someone guessed a number lower than 20 (its between 20-100).
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 Post Posted: 11 Oct 2010 10:23 am    Post subject: Server tonight
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may need to drop to 10 players for server tonight if I need to stream Netflix...just a heads up...would prolly be around 9e/6p, but not sure
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 Post Posted: 12 Oct 2010 8:17 am    Post subject:
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heads up, if you accidently make a bet, realize it and suicide, I may not even notice the suicide in the log, bypass it and keep looking for your next encounter...if you lose it you'll lose the bet. I caught it this time because that player gave me a head's up, but just an fyi...

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Betting is getting a little ridiculous...I may have to scale it back or figure out a different mechanic on how it works. There were 45 bets yesterday, it takes too long...

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Another heads up, someone got the Salvage Ops Go message yesterday but it was about 3 minutes after the launch of the map. The Time Stamp of, "Ms.K has Joined" is the marker. You need to get the Salvage Ops Go message within 1 minute of that. That also includes others that join on the other team that you are going to destroy. Any players on the opposite team that join after 1 minute are not eligible nor any teammates to receive the bonus after 1 minute...

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As per the Diplomat Occupation page, -diplomat can only be used 5x per day as well as -level

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-level cannot be used by any other Occupation when getting a crit except for pilot

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You cannot -level (Metatron~X) for placing a bet, unless you are a Politician that loses a bet (2x per day). Fining you 1 +100 and 2 + 10 Rank Messages

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Vendetta 5 times per day max!!!
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 Post Posted: 12 Oct 2010 5:30 pm    Post subject:
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No offense, but Salvage sounds like an huge p.i.t.a.; are you sure you don't want to just ditch it and replace it with some other easier to monitor mechanism (like -duel, hint, hint)? In other words putting 'Duel' in place of 'Salvage' on the Ranking column and in the Bonus Category chart, as well.

As far as betting goes, you could scale it down from 10 bets a day to something like 5, instead. Although I cringe at the concept of losing the betting mechanism completely (it is after all my main 'bread and butter' as a Politician), I think making it available only under certain circumstances might be a possible option.

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 Post Posted: 12 Oct 2010 6:19 pm    Post subject:
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Salvage isn't a big deal and its very cool. It happens so rarely, that I can handle it.

Betting will be cut down to 5/day but bet1000 will have 2 outcomes, 1000 or double down to 2000...so same possible points, but less chances to do it. Will go into effect tommorrow morning.
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Metatron~X you bet 21 times yesterday. For each bet over the max limit I am erasing a Set of Rank Points....

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Templar you had ~2 extra bets yesterday and you also had 7 -vendetta...will start docking you
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 Post Posted: 13 Oct 2010 10:40 am    Post subject:
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Metatron~X you bet 21 times yesterday.


I'm sorry Coolant, and I know that this makes for a pain in the ass for you, but I lol'd when I read this.
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Coolant wrote:
Metatron~X you bet 21 times yesterday.


I'm sorry Coolant, and I know that this makes for a pain in the ass for you, but I lol'd when I read this.


If I see Metatron, I'll tell him '5 bets per day only.' He should understand that...

I'm pretty sure he doesn't read the forums, or so it would appear.

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Duelist changes...
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